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l'infanterie et la cavalerie des shaytan se rassemble pour réaliser le nom = nouvel ordre mondial avec un melting pot de communisme, et d'islamisme modéré pour faire surgir une nouvelle théorie de domination et de spoliation des peuples déshérités.
En soit l'idée n'est pas mauvaise, le musulman doit faire un commerce licite lui permettant de supporter ses charges, rentrer dans tous ses frais et faire une marge islamiquement acceptable afin qu'il puisse se développer et progresser.
Mais venant de ses gens là et à ce moment précis ??? Il y a une sacrée odeur de compromission douteuse avec les illuminatis francs-maçons de tout poils qui pillulent dnas cette partie du globe. Vous savez la ruse du diable est si simple qu'on refuse d'y croire i.e faire croire que deux camps sont opposées ( républicains et démocrate par ex.) alors que c'est la même chose présentée pile et face. Le même dénier du diable. Les deux sont inséparables et indossolublement liés sous peine de non validité.
Les sionistes jouent au ping-pong avec nos esprits; vigilance !
maa salaam
je pense qu en occident l usure est aussi interdit moi ce que je voudrais savoir comment on peut faire la difference entre l usure et l interet a partir par exemple de quel taux on peut dire que c est de l usure.
Vérité d'évengile: Interdit dans le texte c-à-d la loi mais ni la l'esprit ni la lettre du texte ne sont respectés dans les faits Pratiques.
Une méthode bancale pour vous dire comment on peut faire pour établir la différence:
pour la Zakkat al fitr, Notre Sheikh iranien nous avait montré que par rapport au hadith prophétique qui fixait la mesure étalon il y a 1400 ans, on peut adapter cette mesure avec la quantité et le prix d'une denrée équivalente avec les prix du moment et il avait estimé que c'est à peu près avec nos Prix locaux ( afrique centrale et en 2007 ) quelque chose entre 1200-1500 F CFA.
pour quoi ne déduirait on pas pareillement pour Les Dirhams et les Dinars de 1400 ans avec leur équivalence en 2008 ? seuls les Wahhabis usuriers et munafeqs s'y opposeront pour gruger la Umma avec des idées à dormir debout comme quoi tout intérêt est interdit et ils vont placer les pétrodollars des pélérins et du hajj pour en tirer le maximum d'intérêt usuraires aont ils s'empiffrent.
Maintenant, c'est à nos marja's d'établir les édits sur les Taux d'intérêts Planchers et plafonds selon l'épargne ou le crédit; le court, moyen ou long terme... à peu près comme le LIBOR par exemple sauf que celui là est usurier...
Maa Salaam
donc nos savants sont en gros sont d accord avec le cheyr tantawi quant il dit que l interet n est pas l usure et qu il veut suprimer les banques soit disant islmique qui enrichissent les cheyr des petro dollar car les banques qui se disent islamiques sont beaucoup plus chere que les autres banques sauf qu au lieu qu ils appellent interet ils l appellent loyer ou lising.
et comment marche les banques en iran
Financing Schemes
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1- Import Trade Financing Scheme
Under resources granted by Islamic Development Bank EDBI national agent of IDB
2-Export Financing Scheme (EFS)
Under resources granted by Islamic Development Bank EDBI national agent of IDB
1-About Import Trade Financing Scheme (ITFO)
This scheme facilitates the import of the development goods on deferred payment basis and to promote trade (import) among IDB member countries.
Percentage of financing: 100%
Period of financing guarantee: 9-24 months for raw materials and intermediary goods up to 30 months for capital goods.
Guarantee: From a bank or insurance (ICIEC…) acceptable to IDB.
Denomination of sale price:
In addition to the Islamic Dinar {which the equivalent of special drawing right-(SDR) of the IMF} the denomination of some transactions under the above scheme could be made, at the request of the applicant institutions, in U.S. Dollars, British Pound, Euro and Japanese Yen, on the basis of “first come, first serve,”.
Mark-up:
A. Ways for levying the mark-up
I. the mark-up base will be 12 months Euro LIBOR (as quoted on Reuters screen) or the requested currency London interbank offered rate.
II. The total mark-up for each applicant will be based upon the mark-up of 12 months LIBOR referred to in (I) above plus a “spread” each will be commensurate to the credit rating of the applicant as determined by IDB, the prevailing market and competitive situations.
III. The total mark-up for each operation will be also linked to the tenor of the financing requested.
IV. For imports from IDB non-member countries, one half one percent (50 basis points) additional spread will be added to the above-mark-up in (II).
B. The value date to be applied:
The value date will be date of each disbursement under the concerned operation.
Maximum period for opening:
Three months after the date of approval. 1st L/C Channel of communication: Through official channel in the concerned country or directly to IDB.
Ceilings: Annual allocation, country risk exposure ceiling.
Terms and Conditions:
1. Eligible Commodities: All goods of development nature including raw materials, industrial intermediate goods capital goods.
2. Source of Supply: From IDB member countries except for cases where the required goods are not available in member countries.
3. Repayment period:
1. Ranges between 9 and 30 months depending on type of commodities and source of supply (member or non-member country).
2. For those customers, who are affected by LOCAL regulations (withholding tax etc. due to short maturity of foreign loans) the repayment period could be extended suitably, for raw materials and intermediate goods.
3. For the import of capital goods, the repayment period is already 30 months.
4. Denomination of Transaction: In addition to the Islamic Dinar {which the equivalent of special drawing right-(SDR) of the IMF} the denomination of some transactions under the above scheme could be made, at the request of the applicant institutions, in U.S. Dollars, British Pound, Euro and Japanese Yen, on the basis of “first come, first serve,”.
1. The Ways of Levying the Mark-up, The Value Date to be Applied
A. Levying of Mark-up:
I. The mark-up base will be 12 months Euro LIBOR (maximum quoted on Reuters screen) or the requested currency London interbank offered rate.
II. The total mark-up for each applicant institution will be based upon the mark up base of 12 months LIBOR referred to in (1) above plus a “spread” which will be commensurate to the credit rating of the applicant as determined by IDB, the prevailing market and competitive situations.
III. The total mark up for each operation will be also linked to the tenor of the financing also.
IV. For imports from IDB non-member countries, one half of one percent (50 basis points) additional spread will be added to the above spread for operations.
B. The Value Date To Be Applied:
The value date will be date of each disbursement under the concerned operation.
C. Rebate For Prompt Repayments:
The rebate to the importer for prompt repayments will be directly related to the spread over the mark-up base mentioned earlier, and it will be 30% of the spread.
Requested Information for an ITF Operation
Name, Mail address, telex/fax number and contact person of the beneficiary institution.
Audited annual reports of your institution as follows:
- For the latest three years if a first class Commercial bank guarantee acceptable to IDB is provided.
- For the latest five years along with the financial projections and cash flows for the 5 years if an alternative security (other than a commercial bank guarantee) is provided.
- Commodities to be imported along with brief specifications / descriptions.
- Quantity and Unit price (if available). Approximate amount of requested financing in U.S. Dollars.
- Source(s) of supply (preferably from member countries if commodity is available, subject to quantity and price competitiveness).
- Denomination of the operation in any of the eligible currency mentioned above.
- The desired repayment period.
- Beneficiary’s Basic Information, duly signed as per attached format.
- Requests have to be received through the official channels-of your country.
Goods
FinancingPeriod
Oil related products***
Jute products99
Fertilizers1512
Cement clinker and pozzaline1815
Industrial raw material1812
Capital goods1812
Industrial intermediate goods3030
2412
*Import from member countries
** Import from non-member countries
2—About Export Financing Scheme (EFS)
Purpose: promote export trade of participating member countries of the scheme. Presently finances exports to all countries: members and non-member countries except those which are subject to OIC boycott regulation.
Commodity Eligible for Financing:
Goods with at least 30% of the FOB value there of originating from I.R.Iran.
Percentage of Financing: 100% for all operations.
Period of Financing:
The whole period of financing including the repayment period shall be determined by mutual agreement of IDB and Export Development Bank of Iran.
Mark-Up:
1. The mark-up bases will be 12 months U.S. dollar libor (maximum quoted on Reuters screen) on the value date of each disbursement.
2. The total mark-up will be 12 months LIBOR plus a spread to be determined on a case –by case basis.
3. A rebate of 30% of the spread will be given to the importer prompt payment.
Maximum Utilization: Period 6 months renewable by 6 months.
Terms and Conditions of Financing:
1. An application for financing should be submitted by the exporter through Export Development Bank of Iran.
2. Financing is provided on the basis of Islamic Murabaha. The Scheme finances up to 100% of export transactions.
3. Mark-up:
a. The mark-up base will be 12-month US Dollar LIBOR (as quoted on Reuters Screen) on the value date of each disbursement.
b. The total mark-up will be 12 months LIBOR plus a spread to be determined on a case –by case basis.
c. The beneficiary shall be granted a rebate of 30% of the spread, as an incentive for prompt repayment on or before the due date.
Application Procedure
1. The importer shall provide a first-class commercial bank guarantee to ensure the timely repayment of both the principal amount of financing as well as the mark-up. The IDB may consider accepting other guarantees in accordance with its policies and procedures.
2. Transactions should be denominated in a freely convertible currency.
3. Repayments should be made by the importer in Euro. The goods financed under the Scheme should have domestic inputs, including those imported from other Muslim countries, not less than 30% the total value of the goods.
4. Repayment of the sale price by the importer may be made in one single payment at the end of the financing period, or in annual or semi-annual installments to be agreed upon between the importer and the IDB.
Application procedures:
1. Concluding a supply contract between the buyer and the seller.
2. Submitting the application form and required documents to the Export Developments Bank of Iran, as follow:
2.1 Full information on the exporter (address, legal status, activity, etc), articles of association, latest annual report, etc.
2.2 Full information on the importer (address, legal status, activity, etc), articles of association, amount of financing requested, specification of the goods, the financing period, in addition to a statement verifying the origin of the goods and a copy of the initial supply contract … etc.
2.3 Copies of the audited financial statements of the importer for the last three years.
2.4 Name of the guarantor bank proposed by the importer.
3. The Export Development Bank of Iran shall examine and evaluate the financing application received from the exporter. Once satisfied with the request, the agency shall forward the application, together with its own recommendations, to the Scheme at the IDB Headquarters in Jeddah.
Within the IDB, the financing proposal shall be processed and submitted to the concerned authority for approval.
If the transaction is approved, the Scheme shall proceed to notify the national agency with the financing terms and conditions, with copies to the exporter and to the importer.
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:basmallah
salamunalaikum,
l'usure est un cas particulier de l'intérêt prohibé par le saint Coran. Le principe est le même, seul le taux varie: il est usuraire, dans le sens où il est si important qu'il est rejeté même par les tenants de l'intérêt. Mais ces gens sont incapables de définir la limite entre intérêt et usure, en dehors de la loi qui ,elle ,décide discrétionnairement, en fonction du taux d'escompte de la banque centrale. Un autre piège consiste à assimiler l'intérêt à un taux de compensation monétaire de la perte de pouvoir d'achat avec le temps. Le problème démentant cette affirmation, est que le taux d'intérêt est presque toujours supérieur au taux d'inflation, sauf en cas exceptionnel comme au Japon avec la politique monétaire à taux 0 (less Yen carry trade).
Mais au fond, entre intérêt et usure, le principe est rigoureusement le même et c'est ce principe que l'on appelle riba qui a été interdit par la religion.
Pour la petite histoire, en droit chiite, il vous est autorisé de recevoir des intérêts sur des non-musulmans, mais il est interdit d'en donner à qui que ce soit et il est interdit aussi d'en recevoir sur des musulmans.
Donc l'intérêt = usure = interdit = grand pêché.
Pour plus d'info, Vous pouvez consulter article sur Oumma.com intitulé: l'interdiction de l'intérêt résout elle les contradictions du libéralisme?
Salaam
un verset qui dit : N'oublies pas ta part dans ce bas monde semble t- il, je conjecture seulement car je ne vois pas encore mieux, creusons ensemble pour en savoir plus sur cette question.
Maa Salaam
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